1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,600 This program is about unsolved mysteries. Whenever possible, the actual family members 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,680 and police officials have participated in recreating the events. What you are about 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,400 to see is not a news broadcast. 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Five weeks ago, we brought you the story of a young man who was suffering from amnesia 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,480 and living in a homeless shelter in San Diego. Thanks to you, our viewers, he now knows who 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,560 he is and will soon be reunited with his family. Tonight, the dramatic conclusion to 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,400 his story. We will introduce you to this woman also suffering from amnesia and needing 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,200 your help to find out who she is. 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,200 We will also examine accusations that a nurse in Texas named Ethel Nation sold dozens of 10 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,480 babies to adopted parents. Two of those infants who are now adults would like your help to 11 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,080 find their natural parents. 12 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:06,520 And finally, with Halloween almost upon us, two tales of things that go bump in the night. 13 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,240 During the Civil War, this building was an important outpost for the Union Army. Today 14 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:19,040 it is a museum and many employees believe some of the old soldiers never left. This building, 15 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,880 an upscale restaurant known as a Moss Beach Distillery, also has a spectacular and intriguing 16 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:29,760 past. Legend has it that during the Roaring 20s, it was a hotbed for loose women, bathtub 17 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,360 gin, racketeering and mobsters. 18 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Over the years, eye witnesses have found a series of strange happenings right here in 19 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:45,600 the distillery. Eerie sights and sounds that no matter how hard you try cannot be explained. 20 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,320 People who can't believe that the ghosts of the Roaring 20s are still here today, brewing 21 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,320 up spirited mischief to make a fascinating and chilling, unsolved mystery. 22 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:52,600 Moss Beach is a lonely windswept cove which lies 20 miles south of San Francisco. The 23 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,880 Moss Beach Distillery is perched on a bluff overlooking the cove. The restaurant's name 24 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,360 pays homage to the building's history. During the heady days of prohibition, it was a notorious 25 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,440 speakeasy. 26 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,440 In recent years, all manner of strange goings on have been reported at the Moss Beach Distillery. 27 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,440 The actresses swear the cold winds swirl through the dining room, but no windows or doors are 28 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:27,040 open. One of the former owners claims she has seen objects fly through the air and doors 29 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 locked mysteriously of their own accord. 30 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:37,040 At last count, as many as five different ghosts have been reported lurking in and around this 31 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,680 restaurant. I've been here all day and I haven't seen a single ghost, but over the years a 32 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,280 lot of other people have, or say they have. And since it's almost Halloween, the rest 33 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,760 of us should at least try to keep an open mind. According to local legend, all this ghostly 34 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:00,760 business began some 70 years ago with a beautiful lady in blue. 35 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:06,160 The Roaring 20s, flappers, fast living, illegal booze. 36 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Hey, Eddie, tell those lunks to get the lead out. 37 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Frank's Roadhouse, the speakeasy at Moss Beach, was a favorite jumping off point for bootleggers. 38 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Frank's was also the setting for a legendary love triangle. 39 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,160 The lady was beautiful. She always wore blue. 40 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,160 The piano player had eyes only for her, but their romance was conducted in secret because 41 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:51,160 the lady in blue belonged to someone else. The lovers communicated in code, a silent 42 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,160 language in which the lift of an eyebrow spoke volumes. 43 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:03,160 The lady's husband was a bootlegger, and that night she made a serious mistake. 44 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:10,160 Unaware that he would soon arrive, she signaled the piano player to meet her on the beach. 45 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:23,160 Moss Beach was a bootleggers' haven, isolated, and sheltered under a cliff just outside the 46 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,160 sea. When the lady's husband found out she had left Frank's Roadhouse, he made his way 47 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,160 to the cove and frantically questioned his cronies. 48 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:39,160 Suddenly, the bootleggers saw his wife with the piano player and went mad with jealousy. 49 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:56,160 A knife flashed. A gun was drawn. The lady threw herself between the two men she loved. 50 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:09,160 When the struggle was over, the beautiful lady in blue lay lifeless, victim of her lover's dagger, 51 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:16,160 or so it is said. Some will deny that she ever existed, but others will swear that her ghost 52 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:23,160 haunts Moss Beach to this very day. Believers claim that just as the blue lady once held 53 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:30,160 court inside the speakeasy, her spirit now pervades the restaurant. Breathing a chill 54 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:39,160 wind down the necks of women she sees as rivals. Moreover, some employees swear that she calls 55 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,160 out their names seductively when they are all alone in the dining room. 56 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:57,160 She's mischievous. A lot of pranks will happen, a lot of things will go on, but I don't think 57 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:03,160 that any of it is malicious. I don't think that anything is supposed to be hair-raisings 58 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:09,160 and you running out of a building or anything else like that. She's good. She seems to be 59 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:17,160 kind soul, my spirit. It still sort of amazes me that she still is there and still playing 60 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,160 tricks on people. Every time I come back and talk to someone, they give me the list of all 61 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,160 the things that she's been doing. When Pat and Dave Andrews own the Moss Beach Distillery, 62 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:34,160 their family lived on the ground floor. They say the blue lady seemed to delight in locking 63 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:49,160 them out of their rooms. Pat also says that the blue lady liked to play other tricks, especially 64 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:57,160 late at night when Pat was all alone in the restaurant office. My checkbook lifted right 65 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:04,160 off the shelf above my head and sailed around, kind of slowly, around in this small room. 66 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,160 I just told her to put it back and it went right back onto the shelf. 67 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,160 I was a total skeptic. It couldn't have been more skeptical than, it would be impossible to be more 68 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:26,160 skeptical than I was and I just didn't believe in it. And then as time went on, the things 69 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,160 that happened, you know, totally brought me around to the point of view that it is here. 70 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:37,160 There's no way the fans are about it. It happened. On the cliff outside the restaurant, some 71 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,160 neighborhood children once claimed they saw the blue lady, but she seemed to be a very 72 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:48,160 different kind of ghost, not the playful spirit who dwelled indoors, but one with a somber 73 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:55,160 demeanor concerned for the children's safety. Children, please. 74 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Please, please listen. Go back. Go away. It's dangerous. Please listen. Hurry. 75 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:13,160 The housekeeper of one of the restaurant employees believes she has met the same spirit and that 76 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,160 it is definitely not the two-timing flapper of popular legend. 77 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:28,160 The first time I see the blue lady is one night. I am very sick. I have cold. I have fever. 78 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:39,160 And I see one person in the side of my bed. 79 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,160 You are a consul? 80 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Yes, I am a consul. 81 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,160 I want to talk to you because you have something of mine. 82 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,160 I don't know. I don't have anything of yours. 83 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 I am talking about my music. 84 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:12,160 The mysterious blue lady would soon reappear, this time just after Consula had finished 85 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:18,160 showering. She claims that once again the spirit asked for her music and then revealed her 86 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,160 name. 87 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,160 My name is Almarine. 88 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:35,160 The name Almarine conjured a dim memory from Consula's childhood. When she was ten years 89 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,160 old, Consula's father had given her sheet music written by one of his close friends, 90 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Ricardo Palmarine, a famous Mexican musician. 91 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:53,160 The song was titled Peregrina. It was dedicated to Ricardo's beloved. Her name was Almarine. 92 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:06,160 According to Consula, Almarine and Ricardo Palmarine were star-crossed lovers. Almarine 93 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:12,160 was already married to another man when she fell in love with a handsome musician. Legend 94 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,160 has it that in 1927 she walked into the sea, preferring death to life without her beloved 95 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Ricardo. Some say she drowned herself off the northern California coast, not far from 96 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Moss Beach. 97 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,160 I became involved with the blue lady. 98 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Sylvia Brown has a national reputation as a psychic. She has worked with the police on 99 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:43,160 many unsolved criminal cases. In 1992, the owner of the Moss Beach Distillery asked her 100 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,160 to find out just who the blue lady was. 101 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:56,160 And I said, oh, I have more things to do than to go ghost chasing. But I said, what the 102 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:03,160 heck? So after I got up here, I walked in and said, oh my God, there is a ghost here. 103 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:12,160 And I'm getting the name Mary Ann or Mary Ellen Morley. And she seems to be swarming 104 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,160 all in sort of like a hat and blue. 105 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:21,160 The restaurant employees were surprised when Sylvia came up with a totally new identity for the blue lady. 106 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,160 Maybe I'd say 26, maybe 27. 107 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Sylvia wanted to say that Mary Ellen Morley had been killed by crushing blows to the chest and head. 108 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,160 But her demeanor seems to be... 109 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:39,160 We took that information, went over to the San Mateo County Vital Statistics and researched 110 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:45,160 documentation between 1910 and 1930. And in fact came up with a name that Sylvia Brown had 111 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,160 mentioned during dinner, Mary Ellen Morley. 112 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,160 My God, Jennifer, look at this. 113 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Jennifer Towner and Jan Muckelstone, another restaurant employee, dug through the archives and made an eerie discovery. 114 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:12,160 Mary Ellen Morley's maiden name was Reed, and in an astounding coincidence, she had a sister named Alma. 115 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,160 This is all checking out. This is just... 116 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:21,160 Jennifer and Jan are also intrigued by the newspaper accounts of Mary Ellen Morley's death. 117 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:31,160 When she was killed, it made front page news. And the Redwood City Standard as well as the Times Gazette. 118 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:40,160 And so it was really chilling when I came upon that, because all of a sudden she became very real. 119 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,160 Mary Ellen Morley lived in Redwood City, California, near the San Francisco Bay. 120 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:53,160 On the day of her death, Mary Ellen and her husband, Frederick, had driven north to visit her mother's grave. 121 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,160 The cemetery was 15 miles from the Moss Beach Distillery. 122 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Returning home on the Bayshore Highway that same night, Frederick lost control of his automobile. 123 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,160 It overturned, and Mary Ellen was trapped in the wreckage. 124 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:19,160 It's heavy. Get it off there, please. 125 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,160 With her last breath, she asked Frederick to take care of their three-year-old son, Jack. 126 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,160 When Frederick Morley heard a car, he frantically ran for help. 127 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,160 But in the end, he could do nothing to save his wife. 128 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,160 The injuries she suffered were crushing blows to the chest and head. 129 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,160 The exact injuries described by Sylvia Brown. 130 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Help me! 131 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,160 You say that you're very tired. 132 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,160 The owner of the distillery called Sylvia Brown back to the restaurant for a seance. 133 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Because you've been walking so long, so cold, so tired. 134 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Sylvia claimed that Mary Ellen Morley's spirit was weary from searching for Jack, her son. 135 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Incredibly, Sylvia also says she saw three other spirits with Mary Ellen. 136 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:40,160 A beautiful blonde named Anna Philbrick, her dashing lover, John Contina, and Hannah Elder, a Mennonite woman. 137 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:49,160 As the seance came to an end, Sylvia said Mary Ellen warned there would soon be a fire at the restaurant. 138 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Is that what you're saying, Mary Ellen? 139 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Four or five days later, after this, we had a fire here in the restaurant. 140 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,160 We had to close the restaurant temporarily. 141 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,160 And that was really eerie. That was kind of scary. 142 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:11,160 I've moved from a one on a scale of ten of belief to somewhere in the neighborhood of an eight, I would say, 143 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,160 and a ten with regard to my blue lady. I'm convinced she's here. 144 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Does a spirit of a beautiful blue lady really haunt the Moss Beach distillery? 145 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,160 If so, who could she be? 146 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Most people now believe she is Mary Ellen Morley, the young mother who died in a tragic car accident. 147 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:37,160 Others swear that the blue lady is Almarine, the ill-fated lover of Ricardo Palmarine. 148 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:46,160 A few still hold with the original legend of the beautiful flapper who romanced a piano player at Frank's Roadhouse. 149 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Perhaps all three women haunt Moss Beach. 150 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Perhaps a Moss Beach distillery is not only a watering hole for humans, but a gathering place for spirits as well. 151 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,160 When we return, a tale of a haunting from a different era. 152 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:09,160 Some say the spirits from a civil war have taken up residence in the Drum Barracks Museum. 153 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:29,160 On April 12, 1861, the first tragic shots of the American Civil War were fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina. 154 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Over the next four years, the battle raged along a thousand-mile front. 155 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:44,160 Though most of the fighting took place in the southern states, the Union war effort eventually spread across the country, all the way to Wilmington, California. 156 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:53,160 In 1862, a military installation was established on 60 acres overlooking Los Angeles Harbor. 157 00:17:53,160 --> 00:18:01,160 Cristened the Drum Barracks after an obscure Lieutenant Colonel, the facility was a key center for training and processing troops. 158 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:08,160 By the end of the war, nearly half of California's 17,000 Union volunteers had passed through the barracks. 159 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Today, all that remains of the outpost is a single building which now houses a modest museum and some very unlikely tour guides. 160 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:29,160 I don't call them ghosts or I don't call them hauntings usually. What I do believe in is we call them spirits. 161 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:36,160 It's a comfortable feeling. They don't bother me. And I'm very comfortable here with them. 162 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:44,160 You can lock the rooms at night. I do. I make a check, in fact. Very religiously, I check all the rooms. 163 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:51,160 They're locked, the lights are off, the shades are down. And you come here at 8 o'clock in the morning and the light and the parlor. 164 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,160 Jolly well might be on and then again it might not, but the shades may be up. 165 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:12,160 In 1986, Margelle Bryan was hired to revitalize the Drum Barracks. The museum had fallen into disrepair, despite being declared a historic landmark in 1963. 166 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:23,160 It was very dark, very sad feeling as you walk through. And it was just kind of a building, just kind of standing here saying help me. 167 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Over the next few months, Margelle and a team of craftsmen and volunteers worked diligently to overhaul the museum. 168 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:41,160 The officers lounge was faithfully restored and new displays were installed. The old building was coming back to life. 169 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,160 The museum was in many and more ways than one. 170 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:57,160 I'm sitting in my office doing the proverbial paperwork and something will take my attention. Either a window will rattle, the roses will hit against the window, something wind possibly. 171 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,160 But something attracts me to the fact that I should be checking something. 172 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:22,160 I will walk over to the parlor. Nine chances out of ten when I have this feeling and I open the door, more likely than not the lights on the table are on. 173 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:35,160 Most times I will walk up the stairs and check the gun room. Very often that too has the lights on and the window blinds open even though they have been closed and down. 174 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,160 Because the rule here is that after every tour you pull the shades down, turn off the light and lock the door. 175 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Never thought much about ghosts. I've never inquired about it, never tried to speak to the dead, never got involved. Even when I first came here I took it very lightly. 176 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:03,160 Forrest Neil was always a skeptic when it came to ghosts and the like, until the summer of 1989. 177 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,160 It was on a Monday morning, museum being closed. I'm here by myself. 178 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:21,160 And I heard someone walking in one of the hallways. As it continued I walked out of my door looking down the stairway. 179 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:32,160 I proceeded down, knowing that someone was probably in the gift shop hiding waiting for me to leave. 180 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,160 As I went in the gift shop, no one. 181 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:49,160 When I opened the bathroom I expected for something to happen. There was no one in the bathroom. 182 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,160 And since then I've become pretty much a believer. 183 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,160 We were up there in the gun room cleaning, dusting. 184 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Yasmin works with volunteer groups who assist in the museum's upkeep. 185 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:15,160 In 1991 she too began to believe that the drum barracks might in fact be haunted. 186 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,160 I put down the blinds and turned off the light and locked the door and left. 187 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,160 Came downstairs and left the building. There was nobody around. 188 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,160 You will be back Friday, won't you? 189 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,160 Yeah, sure. What time? 190 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,160 10.30. The silver needs polishing. 191 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:42,160 When I looked up I saw the blind and the window that we were working went up really slow. 192 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,160 Did you just see that? 193 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,160 What? 194 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,160 The blind went up by itself. 195 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:52,160 It gave me the impression as if someone was holding it, you know, someone was doing it. 196 00:22:53,160 --> 00:23:00,160 To me a ghost was like a Casper, the friendly ghost or some movie or something, you know. 197 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,160 I guess, you know, one doesn't simply believe it until they actually are really convinced. 198 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,160 Fred Durran is an exterminator for the city of Los Angeles and the museum is among his regular stops. 199 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,160 On one visit in particular, Fred got all the convincing he needed. 200 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:29,160 As I got into the kitchen that morning, I heard some footsteps behind me and I thought it was the caretaker. 201 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,160 I need to get some water. 202 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,160 Yeah. 203 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,160 And I didn't pay any attention to it. 204 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,160 Have you seen Maria? 205 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,160 No, no, I haven't seen her. 206 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160 As I turned around, there was this guy there. 207 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:54,160 I thought it was kind of odd because he was in a Civil War outfit and I thought it was the caretaker that lived there. 208 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,160 So as I was going out towards, you know, the front of the building to go out towards my vehicle, 209 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,160 then I, you know, I saw the caretaker there and the workman also. 210 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:12,160 And I just asked him, I said, you know, hey, the guy that lives here takes his job seriously. 211 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,160 And they said, you saw the captain's ghost. 212 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,160 And I said, oh, come on, guys. 213 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,160 And they said, no, you actually saw the captain's ghost. 214 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160 If Fred said he saw it, he saw it. 215 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,160 I have no doubts in that. 216 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,160 Fred's a very honest man. 217 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:33,160 My reaction is I wonder why at this point, what the reason was at this point in time, why he had to come now and why to Fred. 218 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,160 This was the hallway I was talking about Barbara Conner. 219 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Marge O'Brien became determined to find out who or what had taken up residence in the drum barracks. 220 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:51,160 In 1991, she asked Barbara Conner, an internationally recognized psychic, to visit the museum. 221 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,160 Oh, this is the parlor. 222 00:24:53,160 --> 00:25:00,160 She says we seem to have some creeks and groans and I thought right away mentally, I thought to myself, oh, it's an old house. 223 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,160 It's just settling. 224 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,160 And I said, well, I've never done it before, but sure, I'd like to come out. 225 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,160 So we came out and started to go through the barracks. 226 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,160 Here, often when I come in, the light is on. 227 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:18,160 According to Barbara Conner, the drum barracks was teeming with ghostly activity. 228 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,160 In the officer's lounge, she claims to have encountered several spirits. 229 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,160 Two were playing cards. 230 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,160 Another stood by the window, peering through the curtains. 231 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,160 But one phantom seemed more forceful than the rest. 232 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:41,160 He looked at me and he says, I want this chair closer to the fireplace because I'm cold. 233 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:52,160 And I was telling Marge, I said, this gentleman that's sitting in this chair here has a foot that his boot is too tight for him. 234 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,160 What was interesting is my research showed that Colonel Curtis, who was the commander here the longest, 235 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,160 had frostbitten his left foot when he was fighting Indians up in Washington. 236 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:09,160 Right around the ankle, above where the nerve endings were, was a great deal of pain, which he suffered much of his life. 237 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:16,160 He would wear a boot that was a size smaller so that he could have more control of that foot and he dragged it. 238 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,160 There is no way Barbara could have known that when she walked into the room. 239 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,160 I had just started to uncover this research. 240 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:36,160 Upstairs, Barbara Conner continued to have visions which seemed to explain some of the strange noises Marge and the staff had grown familiar with. 241 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:42,160 There's a little boy sitting here. He's about to move all that forward. 242 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:48,160 I told Marge, I said, there's a little boy here and he's throwing the ball up against the wall. 243 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,160 And she goes, that's what that is. And I go, what? 244 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,160 She says, well, we've heard this thump, thump, thump and we couldn't figure out what it is. 245 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,160 And I said, well, that's it. He's throwing this ball up against the wall. 246 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,160 And I said, if you want him to stop, just tell him to stop and he'll stop. 247 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,160 Now I'd like to take you into the story drill. 248 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:21,160 As the tour came to an end, Barbara Conner says she saw the specters of Colonel Curtis and his officers in a planning session. 249 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:28,160 The Colonel was standing there at the table and when we came in, he looked at us and all of a sudden he started looking in a box over on the side. 250 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:37,160 Like he left what he was doing and went over and started digging in this box and he turned to me and mentally he's projected he wants his award. 251 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,160 He wants the award. He's trying to find an award. 252 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:46,160 And I said, what award? And he says, I have an award. I want my award and I want it on that wall. 253 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:54,160 Well, I had never heard of a plaque before and I don't remember anything ever hanging in that storage room. 254 00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:03,160 But I discovered later that when he left Washington that Colonel Curtis did receive an award for his work with the Indians up there. 255 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,160 And possibly that could have been the plaque. 256 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:13,160 Colonel Curtis, gentlemen, it's time to go home. Lights out. If you want them back on, that's fine with me. 257 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,160 I believe that there's something here. 258 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,160 People ask me, have I seen it? I haven't. No, I haven't seen it. And apparently they don't talk to me. 259 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,160 And if I'm wrong in talking to spirits, well then I'm wrong because I do. I've become accustomed to them. 260 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:46,160 And I'm pleased that they're here. If indeed they are. Because it means someone with a longer span here is going to take care of this place and it will be taken care of. 261 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:57,160 Do the long dead spirits of the Civil War still roam the drum barracks? At this point the museum staff has little doubt. 262 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Skeptics might say they have overactive imaginations or perhaps a fanatic reverence for the past. 263 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:13,160 But those who've experienced the unguided tour of the museum believe it is nothing less than a case of living history. 264 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:25,160 When we return, a young man and woman sold as infants by a nurse in Texas are searching for their natural mothers. 265 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:41,160 These three infants were all born in San Antonio, Texas between 1959 and 1966. 266 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:53,160 What they have in common is a connection to an opportunistic woman, a woman who according to some ran a secret but profitable business in which she sold babies for more than 20 years. 267 00:29:54,160 --> 00:30:00,160 That questionable enterprise first came to light when the mother of this infant began looking for her. 268 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:11,160 In November of 1959, 18-year-old Dyleen Zalikov was alone, scared and seven months pregnant. 269 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160 She was taken in by a nurse in San Antonio named Ethel Nation. 270 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:25,160 On January 6, 1960, Dyleen gave birth to a healthy baby girl. Almost immediately, Ethel whisked the infant away. 271 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Ethel stole my baby and I searched, I searched, I tried everything in San Antonio. 272 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:46,160 I talked to a lawyer, Ethel wouldn't help me, I just couldn't find my baby. 273 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:58,160 Ethel Nation always denied that she had anything to do with the disappearance of Dyleen's baby, but in 1968, Dyleen found a photograph of her daughter in Ethel's house. 274 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:05,160 It took another 15 years of searching before Dyleen and her daughter were reunited on national television. 275 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:16,160 When I first saw my daughter, she looked beautiful and she smiled and I was just overjoyed. 276 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:24,160 It was so beautiful to finally, after all these years, we finally, I finally found her. 277 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:34,160 While the story of Dyleen Zalikov and her daughter has a happy ending, the stories of two other young people who were sold by Ethel Nation are far from over. 278 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Perhaps someone in our audience tonight can help unlock the secrets of their past. 279 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:52,160 Scott Mers was born in San Antonio in 1965. His adopted parents were unable to have children and paid Ethel Nation $1200 for Scott. 280 00:31:53,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Scott grew up knowing he had been adopted. When he was 10, he began to have an odd recurring dream which seemed to be about the mother he never knew and perhaps the place where he was born. 281 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:25,160 I remember walking through the main doorway. I remember feeling very cold in this place. I felt like very, very horrible things went on there. 282 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:41,160 There was a table and beside this table there was a man in a green robe and a lady dressed in white. I don't know what they were doing there. 283 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:50,160 When I woke up, I woke up almost screaming. I mean, I was really, really scared. 284 00:32:51,160 --> 00:33:10,160 He said, I was born in that room. I was born in that room. And he said, I feel like my birth mother was having a rough time in her life and for some reason I felt very drawn to her, almost like she was calling me. 285 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:24,160 When Scott was 18, he and his adopted mother Mary began an intensive search for his natural mother. Scott's adoption records revealed few clues, so he and Mary paid a visit to Ethel Nation. 286 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:39,160 She seemed really nice. She seemed like she wanted to help. Then as the time grew on, it got worse and worse and worse. 287 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,160 Miss Nation, I just need to ask you a couple more questions. 288 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Scott and Mary visited Ethel on six occasions. With each visit, Ethel changed her story. At various times, she told Scott he had been born in three different hospitals. But none of them had his birth records on file. 289 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160 They have no record of my being born there. 290 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Who said anything about Santa Rosa? 291 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,160 You did. 292 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,160 I never, you must be mistaken. I never mentioned Santa Rosa. 293 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:14,160 You most certainly did. The last time we came, you told Scott he had been born in Santa Rosa. I sat right here when you said it. 294 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:20,160 On the final visit, Ethel became angry and revealed what she said was the bitter truth about Scott's mother. 295 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:32,160 Your mother didn't want you. Your mother had an abortion. Your mother was a slut. Your mother was a whore. And you want to know why she didn't have the abortion? Because it was too late. 296 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:48,160 She told me that I was a bastard child, that all my mother was was a slut, a whore, and that I have no right to even look for her. So for me to go home and for me to stop looking for her. 297 00:34:49,160 --> 00:35:02,160 Scott and Mary refused to give up. They decided to visit yet another place where Ethel said Scott had been born. A community health center that in 1965 was known as the Woodlawn Clinic. 298 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:22,160 The very minute that we walked in, I was completely stunned. I couldn't even talk. The feelings that I got from this were just incredible. It was very of a morbid type feeling, but yet I felt like I had been there before. 299 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:32,160 And everything that in this dream that I had back when I was 10, it was coming true before my eyes. 300 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:41,160 I was scared to death. He held on to me. I held on to him. We both cried all the way down the hall. 301 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:53,160 I was so happy that it made sense of the dream that I had many years ago. 302 00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:05,160 Sadly, Scott Merz is still not found as natural mother. But through his search, he met a young woman who had a remarkably similar experience with Ethel Nation. 303 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:19,160 Donet Barker was adopted in July of 1966 by a childless couple from San Antonio. As a last desperate resort, they had approached Ethel Nation after years of trying to adopt through state agencies. 304 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Donet learned that on the night she was adopted, her parents had to choose between her and two other infants. 305 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:38,160 We have these two little boys here that are twins and this little girl over here. Now of course you have your choice, but I would prefer that the boys be kept together if that's at all possible. 306 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:51,160 There were bassinets and there were children. I think there were two twin boys in myself. My parents didn't, because they didn't expect that things would happen so quickly. 307 00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:01,160 They just thought they were going to go to see the baby, but at that point Mrs. Nations told my parents that they could go ahead and take me home that night. 308 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,160 We can? Yes, absolutely. Honey, is there a problem? 309 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,160 Well ma'am, we don't have the full 1700. I thought that it had been settled. 310 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,160 Well ma'am, we just didn't think we'd be able to take her tonight. 311 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,160 Do you have some kind of property? Do you have anything that you can sell? 312 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,160 How about the boat? What kind of boat? 313 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,160 It's alright, we'll work something out. 314 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,160 As payment for Donet, Ethel Nation accepted a 14 foot ski boat worth $1700. 315 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,160 You can go ahead and take your baby home. 316 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,160 When she turned 18, Donet began to search for her natural parents. 317 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:45,160 She found that her mother's name was listed as Gloria Cantu. The adoption papers had been notarized by Ethel Nation. 318 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,160 What can I do for you this time? 319 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,160 Donet spoke with Ethel Nation several times and was finally told the same story as Scott Merz. 320 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:01,160 Your mother was a tramp. She didn't want you. She went there to have an abortion, but it was just too late to have one. 321 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160 I don't understand what's happening. 322 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,160 I told you you shouldn't have been messing around with something like this. You should have left well enough alone. 323 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160 I really couldn't understand why. 324 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,160 Or how she could say that it hurt. 325 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,160 There is no way of knowing how many babies were sold by Ethel Nation who died in 1991. 326 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:37,160 Scott Merz and Donet Barker now suspect that there may be dozens of other young people who, like them, will not be able to rest until they are reunited with their natural mothers. 327 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:49,160 Scott Merz was born on August 5, 1965 in San Antonio, Texas. His mother's name was listed as Joyce Coehr. She may have been 22 years old. 328 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:56,160 Scott's adopted mother Mary met her once and recalls that she was thin with dark hair and an olive complexion. 329 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:06,160 It's important for me to find her because there's a certain gap, a certain hole that's inside me that I want to fill. 330 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:16,160 And I think the only way that I can fill this hole is to be whole myself and finding my birth mother will do that. 331 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:25,160 If she's out there and she is watching, I just want her to know that I don't want anything from her. 332 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:35,160 And above all, I don't want to hurt her. Or maybe it's something she's never told anyone or who she's currently married to if she's married. 333 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:45,160 But I don't want anything, no strings attached. I just want to know what happened and how it happened. I would never in any way want to hurt her. 334 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:53,160 Donnet Barker's birthday is listed as July 21, 1966, but she may have been born weeks earlier. 335 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,160 Her mother, Gloria Cantu, may have been 23 years old when Donnet was born. 336 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,160 Both Scott Merz and Donnet Barker Lucier may have been born in the Woodlawn Clinic in San Antonio, Texas. 337 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:18,160 On the night of our broadcast, several viewers called our telecenter on behalf of Donnet's birth mother, Gloria Cantu-Martinez of San Antonio, Texas. 338 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:28,160 A short time later, Donnet spoke to her mother for the very first time and learned that Gloria had never intended to give her up, but had been tricked into signing the adoption papers. 339 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,160 Donnet was overjoyed to discover that Gloria wanted to see her as soon as possible. 340 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:42,160 On November 9, 1992, Gloria flew to Washington, D.C. for a tearful reunion with Donnet. 341 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,160 For mother and daughter, it was an emotional end to 26 years of painful separation. 342 00:40:53,160 --> 00:41:02,160 When I was waiting for her to come out from the plane, I don't know, a million things were going through my mind. 343 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:15,160 Just relief that it was over, that I was finally where I wanted to be after a long time of looking. 344 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,160 I just couldn't believe it. 345 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,160 That it was finally going to happen. 346 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,160 What I always wanted. 347 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:42,160 I always wanted to find her and wonder what she was like if she was married or if she had any children. 348 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,160 The reunion was made even more special when Gloria met her four grandchildren for the first time. 349 00:41:51,160 --> 00:42:02,160 Donnet's dream of having her entire family together had finally come true. 350 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Next, a woman stricken with amnesia needs your help in tonight's special alert. 351 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:35,160 Last month we heard the story of a young man in San Diego, California who had no idea who he was or where he had come from. 352 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:43,160 In May of 1992, he had wandered into a local homeless shelter, apparently suffering from complete and total amnesia. 353 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160 Doctors were baffled by his memory loss. 354 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:52,160 The only clue to his identity was a Boston library card which bore the name Pierre April. 355 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:06,160 Update. On the night of our broadcast, a viewer in Canada called our telecenter to say that the young man had once worked for his wife and that his name is in fact Pierre April. 356 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:15,160 Pierre soon learned that he has two sisters and that his parents live in Lachine, Canada where his father practices medicine. 357 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,160 The next day, they spoke on the phone for the first time in more than five months. 358 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:34,160 It was a very emotional moment and then I even had to tell him that I couldn't even trust him 100% that I wanted a package with family pictures in it and with my birth certificate in it. 359 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,160 And anything else he could think of. 360 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,160 He said, OK, we'll send that to you. 361 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,160 And then he said, do you remember your mom? 362 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,160 And I said, no. 363 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,160 And she was listening on the extension and she burst into tears. 364 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,160 A few days later, the packet arrived. 365 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:59,160 Pierre sat down with his fiancee whom he met in San Diego and a friend to get reacquainted with his past. 366 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,160 It is strange to be told who you are and what you did. 367 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,160 I'm someone again. 368 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,160 And for quite a few months, I was nobody and nothing. 369 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:38,160 Shortly after Pierre's story aired, we were contacted by authorities in Richardson, Texas, a suburb of Dallas about another unusual case of amnesia involving a woman who calls herself Sandra Evans. 370 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,160 Like there's a wall across my brain and it won't let me see the other side. 371 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:56,160 Occasionally a snapshot comes through and I get a glimpse of a life before but nothing solid, nothing concrete. 372 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:04,160 On May 14, 1992, Sandra fainted in a Dallas area bus station and was transported to a local hospital. 373 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,160 She seemed to be suffering from total amnesia and the police were notified. 374 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:22,160 I did receive numerous phone calls from around the United States, from law enforcement agencies and citizens in general, thinking that they may know who Sandra actually is. 375 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:30,160 We did follow up on all of the phone calls we received and we're not able to determine who she actually is. 376 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,160 This photograph was taken the day Sandra was found. 377 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:41,160 Initially she could not remember her name and she is still not sure that she truly is Sandra Evans. 378 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,160 In fact, the tag on the luggage she was carrying had the name Linda Kennedy on it. 379 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,160 Sandra says a handwriting is hers but is certain the name is not. 380 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,160 The strongest clues of Sandra's identity are several photographs found in the luggage. 381 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,160 There is one of Sandra's a bride and other shows two young children. 382 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,160 And finally a picture of a teenage girl which appears to be a high school graduation portrait. 383 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,160 They troubled me. 384 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,160 I didn't want to deal with the thought if they could be my children. 385 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:36,160 It was much easier to believe they could be nieces and nephews because the thought of them being mine and not knowing where they are, not knowing who they are, not knowing what conditions were that they were in was too upsetting. 386 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:47,160 At this point Sandra believes her amnesia is a result of some traumatic perhaps violent experience and she is haunted by a vague fear of both her past and her future. 387 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:57,160 I am afraid of what I'm going to find on the other side because something made me forget it. 388 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:05,160 I am afraid that if I've had children that they won't understand where I've been for the last five months. 389 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:14,160 That if I, my mother must be elderly if this is doing something to her. 390 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:26,160 Update. Just moments after this story aired in Canada, a viewer contacted authorities there and identified Sandra Evans as her sister Carol Ann Rosak of London, Ontario. 391 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:36,160 Carol Ann soon learned that she is divorced and that the photographs found in her luggage were over two sons, now teenagers, and her 13 year old daughter. 392 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:45,160 When I talked to my daughter I asked her about things that we had done and she said we did everything together. 393 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:55,160 She said we were real close. In fact the first time I talked to her it was more like she was the mother and I was the daughter. 394 00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,160 She was so sweet. She was so excited to talk to me. 395 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:13,160 Even though the information about her past did nothing to jog her memory, Carol Ann immediately began packing to return to Canada for her children, her four sisters and her brother would be waiting. 396 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:27,160 On October 30th, 1992 a nervous Carol Ann, accompanied by friends she had made in Texas, arrived at the Dallas airport to board a flight that would take her back to her family six months after she disappeared. 397 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:36,160 Oh yes, I'm happy to go home. A little nervous, a little nervous but I'm happy to be going home. 398 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:51,160 Today Carol Ann lives with her daughter Milton Ontario. She still has no idea what caused her amnesia but is currently undergoing therapy in the hope that someday she will fully recover her memory. 399 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,160 She is now a nurse at the Dallas Hospital. 400 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,160 She is now a nurse at the Dallas Hospital. 401 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,160 She is now a nurse at the Dallas Hospital. 402 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,160 She is now a nurse at the Dallas Hospital. 403 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,160 She is now a nurse at the Dallas Hospital.